JAIMINI CHARA DASHA - MY APPROACH - 3

Originally written for Journal of Astrology and syndicated to other websites

It has been customary at the end of an astrological debate, actually a quarrel (these days about Jaimini dashas) -- astrologers come away claiming victory. Starting with a Sanskrit shloka or sutra, a fatuous rhetorical war path, they end up abusing each other. I have seen it so often, astrologers using very offensive language and uttering arrant nonsense. They spout ill-informed academic poison. They cannot overcome their obsessions. Involved in such quarrels, you find yourself between a precipitous rock and a deep sea.

My argument offends them. I asked them how they can claim to know Jaimini astrology without using Karakas. I have said that it is original research, not available anywhere else except in my two deeply researched books on Chara Dasha and Mandook Dasha which I tested and rested before writing them.  To say that you know and do Jaimini astrology without using Karakas is like saying that you do Parashari without using seven grahas  (leaving out Rahu and Ketu).

Jaimini astrology is epic in scale, mythic in symbolism and operates through subtlest hints which are sub-atomic. Imagination is needed to unravel aphorisms. Jaimini astrology is the greatest branch of astrology ever found anywhere in the world, dazzling in its vast range but bafflingly recondite. One lifetime is not sufficient to grasp it. Even with what little one grasps, one begins to give a false impression of being a seer. Instead of quarreling let us arrive at a consensus.

I have repeatedly told students of astrology to follow some steps when dealing with doubtful horoscopes. Once convinced of their correctness, they should not to bother for the criticism and comment of most of the astrologers. It is, for example, preposterous to show the horoscope of Atal Behari Vajpai with Tula lagna for different years, 1924 or 1925 and “prove” a point or a research. Read the biography of Atalji and see what horoscope is given there!! It is Vrischika lagna and 1924 birth which I alone have used among astrologers, as far as I know, and I will show it in a later article .!!!

Follow the steps given here.

First step: When in doubt about the correctness of a horoscope use Chara Dasha as I do, as I alone do. Verify some indisputable events of a horoscope like education, marriage, children, career etc. if such details are available. Examine it again through the most popular Vimshottari dasha and, if you arrive at the correct degrees of the lagna, a strenuous exercise, use the relevant vargas. Applicable conditional dasha should be applied. It will be shown in the cases of Sachin Tendulkar and Benazir Bhutto in this article.

Step two: Before accepting a horoscope, collect as many events of a man’s life as you can and verify them soundly. Choose bio-facts as I call it, always for verification. It must be done consistently applying the same parameters to horoscopes after horoscopes.

Step three: Give some short term predictions to them or, about them, and get or collect a feedback to be convinced that you are working with correct or corrected horoscopes. If majority of your predictions have come out correct, do not get yourself influenced by the claim of astrologers that they have a different horoscope which alone is correct. The horoscope of Atal Behari Vajpai is a good example to remember all your life.

Step four: Always ignore ponga pandits who claim to know the meaning of Sanskrit shloka or sutra and, knowing English, dash off their opinions, these days, on different fora of the internet or even some astrological journals.

Step five: If inspite of all these you discover that you have committed an error in getting or working on a wrong horoscope or, if your verification was faulty, admit it honestly. Otherwise, astrology will suffer and you will get dubbed as dishonest. Let astrologers be not liars. To date, I have admitted in writing my failed predictions giving reasons.

Step six: If in doing a research on horoscopes, you come across a brilliant predictive clue, test it on as many horoscope as you have in your possession. The sample size for testing must be at least twenty five. Do not stop here but give predictions only on this basis for some time to test the soundness of your discovery. Then use it openly in your predictions and, if you like, in your writings.  

Step seven :When you read articles of some writers you begin to pick and choose easily. Some writers are very honest and will not use doubtful horoscopes and justify with vehement dishonesty. Do not waste your time reading them anymore.

Step eight: Similarly, you will see some writers using good techniques soundly and some, not. Follow only the techniques of honest writers. You will realize soon that in the world of astrology there are many malicious fellows, betraying their low upbringing at the earliest. Contributing something positive is not their primary aim.

Step nine: Always use, when you are doing the analysis of a horoscope, more than one dasha though while writing, you may show and use one dasha only for brevity and clarity.

Step ten: Re-check what you have written. This has been always a fault with many including me because while writing  thoughts that race in the mind lead the writer into unconscious errors which he fails to correct. This keeps happening is my honest opinion. The racing mind moving faster than the eye has made me a very incompetent proof reader.

Step eleven: In doing a research on any dasha, unless some indisputable facts are verified stage by stage, the results shown in stray incidents like becoming a prime minister, have no meaning. Show the birth of siblings, the nature of education, some events relating to parents, career patterns with its good and disastrous landmarks and, of course, marriage and children with proper timing. Most of the researches show one or two events only which cannot validate any dasha with conviction and confidence. That is the line I have strictly followed in my books and articles, with examples. Every book on lesser known and used dashas or lesser used dasha which has come out of the pen of BVB teachers of Delhi follows this line strictly.

Step twelve
What to hide and what to reveal is a tough task for even an experienced writer of astrology books. There are certain subtle factors which point to fatality and sexual crimes. Neither in predicting nor in writing should they be revealed is a view I share with many astrologers of earlier days of honest astrology. It now is a forgotten dream amidst so many unscrupulous astrologers.

In writing over a period (from the prediction about the death of Indira Gandhi to Benazir Bhutto, from 1984 to 2007), I have restrained from even talking about it, what I always regard as the clinching factor, even in my conversations with astrologers. In the case of Rajiv Gandhi, I was so sure of his violent end but the amended Terrorist Act his government passed, choked many astrologers from even expressing honest fears. In making predictions about their coming end I used the more obvious planetary combinations which I have taught but never referred to the subtle and secret factors.   

Having said that let me deal with the horoscopes of some important persons which have been always a source of hot debate and acrimonious controversy.

I will use in this article, the horoscopes of:

1) Sachin Tendulkar

2) Benazir Bhutto.

and others.

But first the controversy relating to the Karakamsha must be dealt with.

Karakamsha

Let me first clarify why I use Karakamsha in the birth lagna as the north Indian astrologers do, and not in the navamsha.

I saw books on Jaimini by south Indian writers who put the Karakamsha (KL) in the navamsha while the north Indian astrologers prepared a full chart with KL in the center in the place of the lagna and put other planets as they are in the birth horoscopes.

I tested it on horoscopes with me and found that if I used the south Indian method, it caused more confusion which I have explained in my book on Mandook  Dasha (which I do differently than other writers, with very good results) tested on many horoscopes, including mine and got results. I will explain in later.

First let me explain why putting KL in the lagna appears logical to me.

Results of Karakamsha
B. Suryanarain Rao’s translation of Jaimini Sutras is a mere translation of the sutras without any illustration. It was one the earliest books to influence me along with some books in Hindi from Varanasi. It does not solve our problem. Yet some results as given in the book are reproduced here first to show the confusion that gets created as a result of a translation without illustration. Read my comments in brackets which I have added now.

If any of the planets is in the Karakamsha the results will be:

Sun: Will be fond of public service and will be fond of political activities. (Amitabh Bachchan and all people born on 14 Oct 2010 should be government servants or fond of political activities.)

Moon and Venus: If the full Moon and Venus are in Karakamsha the person will command great wealth and all comforts.

Mars: Will prepare medical mixtures and will bear arms. Will live by professions involving preparations in or near fire. (GLNanda would, a stop gap prime minister twice has this. All people born on 19 Oct 2010 will bear arms or in professions involving fire. A friend of mine has this combination in his horoscope and he worked in a bank. He does not prepare medical mixtures but buys medicines only.)

Mercury: Will become a merchant, weaver or manufacturer of clothes will be clever in preparing curios, will be well versed in social and political matters. (PVNarasimha Rao. should have been a trader not a prime minister.)

Jupiter: Will be well versed in Vedic or religious rituals, will have religious wisdom, will know the rules of sacrificial functions and will have good knowledge in Vedanta.

(Charan Singh would not have been politician. He knew astrology but did not know Jaimini)

Venus: Will become a great official, will become political personage, will be fond of many women and will retain vitality and sexual passion till the age of one hundred years. (All people born in the world on 1 September 2010 will have this combination.)

Saturn: Will be famous in his line of work.

Someone showed me an article of a writer who, I was told, a very keen researcher in Jaimini. He wrote that Saturn in Karakamsha makes one famous in one’s own line. That is a well know Jaimini aphorism. Jaimini says Saturn in Karakamsha or in 2nd house from Karakamsha Lagna indicates the person will be known for his work. 

Let me give an example.

Cast the horoscope of people anywhere in the world of 8 Sept 2009 according to the Lahiri ayanamsha and see Saturn at twenty nine degrees and 51degrees. All the people born in the world will be known for their work as they will become famous in their line. prasiddha karmajivi. Why were people born at the same time as Indira Gandhi not famous? The reason is that a prediction cannot be based on an isolated factor.

The north Indian style of Karakamsha
Put the Karakamsha in Dhanu and retain the planets of 8 Sept 2009 as in the birth lagna and you get a different meaning which appeals to me. There cannot be a group of people born all over the world who will become famous only because Saturn will be Atmakaraka and therefore will be in Karakamsha of all the people in the world born on 8 Sept 2009 at any time and in any lagna. The sheer absurdity of taking Karakamsha lagna so mechanically and herding all the people born with Saturn as Atmakaraka must be noticed and discussed by Jaimini scholars.

Notes
1. It should be clear that if the entire Navamsha of karakas are to be used for Karakamsha then:

(a)Anyone who has Sun as the Atmakaraka will invariably have Sun in the Karakamsha also will become public servant and will be in political activities. If such is the case we can look at all horoscopes in which  Sun is the Atmakaraka and draw a fast conclusion that such persons will be public servants and will be interested in political activities.

(b)Similarly those who have Venus as Atmakaraka will have great sexual virility till the age of one hundred years.

(c)All those who have the Saturn as the Atmakaraka will be famous in their own line of work.

Can we jump to such conclusions merely on the basis of the Atmakaraka and its navamsha position in the navamsha chart? It is obvious that it is a fallacious approach.

Some astrologers use the Karakamsha in the birth horoscope and call it Karakamsha and use the entire navamsha of all Jaimini Karakas and call it Swamsha which appeals to reason. In an article later I will give scanned copies of Karakamsha prepared by north Indian astrologers.   

There is no hint given in any book available in the market to show how the Karakamsha and Swamsha are distinguishable and which one is to be used when for predictive purposes.

Now see some hotly debated horoscopes. But before read what I have written on my website

ETERNAL INDIA 29 - SUPPRESSION OF BIRTH DATA
4 March 2010, 11:44 AM 
KN RAO
4 March 2010, 11:44 AM

The debate among astrologers about the correct birth data or the suppression of the correct birth details of celebrities and historical figures will be unending. Let me quote what I wrote in the preface to LEARN SUCCESSFUL PREDICTIVE TECHNIQUES OF HINDU ASTROLOGY.

"Birth-Time: Hearsay Evidence — We in India have three historical instances of famous men being discussed in astrological articles, including what they call their ‘research’. The late D.P. Misra, a well-known politician of Madhya Pradesh, wrote in his book, "Living an Era", that India’s super Bismark, Sardar Vallabh Patel, did not know his birth day, year and time. When asked by astrologers, he decided, being an Iron Man, known for decisiveness, that he was born on October 30, of some year in the nineteenth century and at a particular time. Using that data, astrologers have discussed his horoscope too often and too nauseatingly.

A more interesting case is that of the former Indian President, Dr.S.Radhakrishnan, who according to a biography written by his son, S. Gopal, was born on a different day of September (in the 4th week of the month, perhaps) one year before the year used by astrologers and, the Government of India celebrates the Teacher’s Day on September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain the horoscope of Dr. Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely different date and year of birth.

More amusing is the gimmick of India celebrating the birth anniversary of the former Indian Prime Minister, Lal Bahadur Shastri, on October 2 every year when according to his well-known family horoscope it should be 9 October. "

Birth-Time: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu — The worst mistake committed by Dr. Raman in Notable Horoscopes is in his discussion of the horoscope of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ignoring all traditional evidence.

(a)As a contrast see what N. C. Lahiri gives in Advanced Ephemeris (p112) the birth detail of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as 17-30 I.S.T. with Simha Lagna

(b)Dr. Raman takes the time as 8-56 p.m. which gives him Tula lagna.

(c)I have used the time given to me by some Bengali friends which gives me 4-42-10 p.m. giving me Simha Lagna, though there is a difference of 48 minutes shown by N. C. Lahiri, who, as he had once told me, that he not being an astrologer, could never correct a horoscope.

Birth Lagna and Dogma: Prabhupad
There is in this book a long portrait of Prabhupad A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami which took considerable scrutiny because while the famous and distinguished astrologer, Gopesh Kumar Ojha, gave him Makar lagna, an American astrologer insisted that it had to be Dhanu lagna, giving not any astrological logic but, on the basis of a pure dogma. It is pernicious not to follow astrological basics. First of all, there must be sound approach through the verification of life events. See for instance the results attributed to Jupiter in the 8th house.

                        "Gurur-mrityago tasya VaikunthaGatham"

Which means that after death, those who have Jupiter in the 8th house, go to the highest world.

What blindfolded the American astrologer was a prejudice. He saw concentration of five planets in the 8th house of Rajneesh (Osho) and concluded, not on the basis of any astrological logic, "the person is walking on the path to hell" . This is not astrology but dogma, not a scientific approach and is not in harmony with the Mahaprabhu’s spirit (Taror-api-sahishnu more tolerant than the tree.)

Lal Bahadur Shastri
Very early in my astrological career I came across a horoscope of Lal Bahadur Shastri with Moon in Kanya and Dhanu lagna with the date of birth not given by as many as three famous and established astrologers of India, Sri Suryanarain Vyas, Sri Hardeo Trivedi and Dr.B.V.Raman.

I cast the horoscope and found that the date of birth was October 9 not 2nd on which his birthday is celebrated. I asked Dr.Raman and also Hardeoji about it and they said that out of their respect for Shastriji they decided not to give the date of birth but made successful prediction about his short term as prime minister and tragic death.

Then in course of time an aunt of my younger brother’s wife married someone in the family of Lal Bahadur Shastri and I got the Memorial Volume in which the family horoscope given was the same as used by the three astrologers referred to above with Dhanu lagna and Moon in Kanya.

Tendulkar
In early nineties of the last century a television anchor from Bombay who specialized in sports used to meet me in Delhi and promised that he would get the birth details of both Tendulkar and Kambli. In his next visit he told me that he would not be able to get it as the families of both Tendulkar and Kambli were advised not to give their birth details to anyone. This may have led to the creation of 24 April as the birthday of Sachin Tendulkar.

Then when I got the birth details from Karveji and his daughter Pinky, I gave it to Sri Manoj Pathak who has produced an article which is there displayed on the website.

I told many that the birth details of Virendra Sehwag were different in earlier year with his month of birth shown as May or April not 20 October of 1978. But then an article in an issue of the Journal of Astrology, later in a book, made it difficult for the wrong date to continue since it was well known that I had got the details from the sister in law of the elder sister of Virendra Sehwag. She is high ranking officer in the Indian railways and knows astrology. Suppression of correct birth details was not possible in this case. There has been no such compulsion in the case of Tendulkar.

Astrologers have always quarreled without realizing that they are fooled by politicians and celebrities. They keep burning their fingers and never learn any lesson. But the age old Hindu or even Moghul emperor’s tradition of giving wrong birth data will continue for some reasons.

(3 March 2010)